Episode 15

Nobody thinks about the moms

Published on: 9th November, 2021

April's teenage son is incarcerated in an adult prison. As a mother she is doing time as well.

Noel works for RAPP - Release Aging People in Prison. Her focus is on parole reform.


April and Noel met through their advocacy for prison reform. In this interview they explain the challenges of dealing with the current criminal justice system, what rehabilitation could look like and why it is so important that we care about how people are treated during incarceration.


For more information check https://rappcampaign.com


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"What Chance?"
Does the crime define the person?We show you the human side of who society calls a criminal
"What Chance?" hosted by Karin Elias takes a deeper look into the life and background of people who have been to prison. Here you find conversations with educators, psychologists, thinkers and the formerly incarcerated around the nature of punishment, the high number of POC in prison and the possibility of rehabilitation in the current structure of society.

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Karin Elias

Karin is a well being facilitator who supports midlife women on their journey through peri/menopause.She offers bodywork, sound healing, creative movement and mindful/guided meditation for individuals, couples and groups.
Originally from Austria, Karin has made NY her home since 1990.
She holds a B.A. in dance and creative movement from the Vienna conservatory. She is a NY state licensed massage therapist, certified sound healing facilitator and holistic aromatherapist. She trained in non violent conflict resolution and restorative justice and facilitated workshops with the Alternative to Violence Project at Sing Sing.
Her private practice is in Scarsdale, Westchester and she teaches future massage therapists in NYC.